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BY: PRADEEP SHARMA

May 12, USA (SUN) — The following is a correspondence between myself (Pradeep Sharma) and an ex-devotee turned Christian:

Dear Mr.Dale,

I read your letter and was automatically reminded of the words of Shrila Bhaktivinode Thakur wherein he states,

“The
followers of this religion (Christianity) have no power to worship God
selflessly. In general their idea is that by cultivating fruitive work
and speculative philosophy one should work to make improvements in the
material world.”

For
the past 2000 years Christianity has evolved based on speculative
philosophy. Because the Bible is vague and can be interpreted in
countless ways we find so many different opinions. Christianity has
broken into countless sects each with a different opinion based on
mental speculation. Even within each sect you can hardly find two
Christians who agree. I can see you have come up with yet one more
concocted idea about Christianity to add to the quagmire.

Dale wrote:

“Namaste.
pranams to you. I am writing your article on An Indian Speaks Out on
Christianity. I have read it with care and would like to point out a
few things. Sorry to say that your conception and understanding of
Jesus Christ is incorrect. I know you are taking the Vaishnava view,
but it is flawed. If you read in Genesis the Lord says, “ Let Us
make man in Our image”. There are a few other references in the
Bible where the Lord is using the plurality of His Being. This
plurality is The Lord Himself and Jesus. Jesus is co-creator in
God¹s creation. Simply by God¹s Divine Instruction, By His
Word, there was light, there was day, etc. God and His word are
non-different. They are Absolute as He is. If you read the Book of
John, Chapter one, we see that that Word became flesh. God’s
manifestation , God’s Word manifested in the flesh, and that was
Jesus Christ. You might say this is simply “our own
interpretation” No, it isn’t, it is Gods Word and
revelation. You can ask why according to Vaishnava Philosophy is some
Jivas bound (jiva-baddha) and some free. Why is the Jiva
tathsata-shakti, and some not. The Vaishnava answer is it is the Lords
Leela. If that is so, we Jivas have to suffer so much in this material
world. This is as absurd as your claim to the Bible’s creation.”

You
are taking words from here and there, stringing them together and then
speculating on the meanings. You say Jesus is a ‘co-creator’, but where
in the Bible have you found verification that Jesus is a co-creator
other than a few vague and cryptic references? The verses you cite can
be interpreted many ways. You say the word and God are non-different
and on the absolute platform. This is similar to the Holy Names of
Krishna and Krishna being non-different. But there is no evidence the
Bible is teaching this knowledge. There is no indication or mention in
the Bible putting forth such a notion that Jesus was a co-creator. The
idea of the word and God being non-different is something that you are
borrowing from Vedic thought. And the idea of the co-creator being
Jesus you have borrowed from Shrimad Bhagavatam. Furthermore, the idea
that Jesus is Brahma is a concoction that you have borrowed from a
deviant Hindu group [Science of Identity Foundation] in Hawaii.

The fact is that Christianity has borrowed what little philosophy it has from other sources.

The
Veda is lucidly clear concerning who the co-creator of the Universe is
and clearly explains that the Holy Name of Krishna and Krishna Himself
are non-different. Where the Bible is ambiguous, hazy and down right
confusing the Veda is vividly clear, distinct and logical. The
following history may interest you. Back in the 1700s the Christians
claimed that the followers of Sreemad Bhagavatam had derived their
philosophy from the Bible. In the end it was proven by European
Indologists that the worship of Krishna and the philosophy of Krishna
Consciousness, existed long before the worship of Jesus.

For more information on the ‘Borrowing Theory’ please click here.

I
have come to know after speaking with some senior Gaudiya Vaishnavas
that you have had some dealing with the Gaudiya Vaishnava Sampradaya in
the past. Apparently you were an initiated disciple of Shreela A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada but for some reason you have now gone
towards Christianity and like most Christians you now claim Jesus as
your guru – thereby negating surrender and service to a bona-fide
living spiritual master. Dale wrote: “Another point that you are
missing, as so are all of you, including the acharyas ( I do not intend
to make Vaishnava Apradha), is that you are all very much Biblically
illiterate.”
I beg to differ with your statement. You are greatly mistaken
concerning our acharyas being “Biblically illiterate”. The
fact is that Bhaktivinode Thakur was well versed in the Bible having
studied in Christian schools in his youth. In contemporary times there
are also numerous acharyas and other Vaishnavas that are well read in
the teachings of Christianity and the Bible. And as for my humble self
my second major at the university was Biblical History and Philosophy.
So modestly speaking some of my colleagues have on occasion called me a
Biblical scholar.

Dale wrote:

“Because
of the Lord¹s Infinite Love & Mercy, He came with a plan to
save the lost souls. The Vaishanava philiosophy states how can the sin
of one man affect the whole race for generations. God was testing His
creatures to see if they would obey. Because He is a God of Love, He
will not force anyone to do anything. Justice and Mercy must both be
there. If the Vaishnava thinks that this is absurd, then we can say
that there are numerous absurdities in the Vedas such as the monkeys
and bears that helped Ramachandra, or Putana being so big. In fact we
can say that all such (leelas) are absurd. We can say that all the
brahmastras the ksatriyas used such as weapons that quenched the fire
weapons, etc., are absurd.”

Simply
put here you are giving a very one-dimensional answer that no thinking
person will respect. You are alluding to the one and only original
thought in Christianity, the idea of original sin. However, nowhere in
Bible is the idea of original sin mentioned. Did you know that the idea
of original sin is just a theory? Did you know that there are three
theories concerning original sin? The theories are known to all
Biblical scholars as, The Augustinian Theory, The Federal Theory, and
The Theory of Mediate Imputation.

The
first theory [The Augustinian Theory] came about from the speculations
of Augustine in the 5th century, 400 years after the supposed
disappearance of Jesus. The other two theories [The Federal Theory, and
The Theory of Mediate Imputation] did not appear until the 17th
century, or 1600 years after Jesus.

At
present all Christians take as gospel truth one of the above mentioned
theories concerning original sin. However, it is just one more mental
speculation that has no valid Biblical reference. Good Christians
believe it is the absolute truth. Christian theologians themselves
however argue over which theory is true showing the absurdity of the
other theories that they disbelieve.

The
theologians themselves, who advocate the doctrine of original sin,
prove conclusively that it is false. For instance, those theologians
who advocate the Augustinian Theory prove conclusively that the Federal
and Mediate Imputation Theories are unscriptural and false. On the
other hand, those theologians who advocate the Federal Theory prove
just as conclusively that the Augustinian Theory and Mediate Imputation
Theories are unscriptural and false. Each theologian, in his turn,
proves the other theories to be false. So we agree here with the
Christian theologians. The theory of Original Sin has no validity and
is a false doctrine.

The
idea that all persons on earth must pay for the sins of the first
created beings will not be acceptable to anyone advanced in culture,
philosophy and science. Even in material society we do not punish all
for the sins of one or two. By this logic God is less merciful than a
common man. Yes, we think this is absolutely absurd.

Dale wrote:

“You
state that Christianity has put forth a lie, a front, but really it is
an aggressive religion. Well what about all the Hindu-Muslim riots? You
can not say that Christianity is aggressive, as Christ was the perfect
example of humilty and tolerance. You will never find anyone who has
such infinite love and mercy. Look at all the so-called gurus that
Prabhupda made. Look at Jayatirtha, Hansadhutta, Bhagavan, etc. Look at
Bhavananada who molested little boys. Look at the child molestation of
the gurukula children in Dallas . Now this demoniac. These persons
posing as spiritual master did more harm than you can imagine. They
were aggressors. Were they wrong, or was Prabhupada wrong for making
them gurus? Look at Tamal Krisna Goswami. His agenda was one of
political gain. The same in Christianity. If there are demons in the
group, don¹t say that was the intention of Christ.”

In
the first place Moslems were aggressors from the beginning, as far back
as the 13th century, when the first Moslems acted as aggressors and
invaded India with the intent of controlling and converting all to
Islam by force. Islam has been a challenge to not only Vaishnavas but
all Hindus in India since the first Moslems stepped foot here.
Vaishnavas or Hindus have never invaded another country and always
welcomed other religions. However those religions of the Abrahamic line
like Islam and Christianity have a long history of intolerance
especially of other religious thought and they have been hell bent on
destroying all other religions.

Because
both Islam and Christianity teach exclusivists doctrines i.e. that all
others outside their religion are bound for hell and therefore should
be converted by any means is good reason to object to their preaching
and converting activity. Sree Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi wanted
Christian missionaries kicked out of India once and for all. And no one
can label Gandhiji as a fundamentalist fanatic Hindu. He was as liberal
as you can get.

All
are welcome in India but those who get in the door just to tear down
the house and to destroy the religions and culture of India must be
challenged. So your citing Hindu-Moslem riots is a very bad counter
argument to the fact that Christianity is and always has been an
aggressive religion designed to wipe out all other religious thought
and all other non-Christian cultures. This is well recorded history,
whether you like it or not. From the Crusades to the inquisitions, to
the witch hunts to the wiping out of the American Natives, to the
atrocities in Goa to the Conquistadors, to the torture, rape and mass
murder perpetrated at the hands of conquering Christians, sometimes
carried out by the nuns, priests and monks themselves – Christianity is
a religion soaked in the blood of innocents. And this appalling
barbarity has continued all the way into modern times, unabated.

You
contend that we cannot blame Jesus on the evil doings that have been
carried out in the name of Christianity. But the fact of the matter is
that all the atrocities were justified by the Christians by citing the
Bible. We are not talking about just a few rogue Christian leaders – we
are talking about the entire Christian Church and its grizzly history.

So
your argument is moot, you are trying to compare the fall down of a
hand full of devotees in ISKCON to the carnage of the Christian Church
over 2,000 years. No intelligent person will accept your argument.

You
speak of Jesus Christ as a historical person however the evidence for a
historical Jesus is small. But if Jesus did exist in the historical
sense then of course we do not blame him personally for all the
atrocities of Christianity. However, the Bible and its fundamental
teachings can indeed be blamed for the destruction of many cultures and
societies. We would like to think that the person Jesus is not
responsible. But the reality is that all this genocide, mass murder,
rape, plunder and pillage have been done in his name using the Bible to
validate such heinous activities. Just as the Islamist can use the
Koran to back their foul deeds the Christians use the Bible.

Dale wrote:

“Before
there was sin in this world, Lucifer in heaven rebelled and was cast
out. You might say,”how can anyone cause rebellion in
heaven”. No one is forced to stay anywhere, because we eternally
have free choice. If you say this is absurd, you can also say that Jaya
and Vijaya being thrown out of Vaikuntha was also absurd.”

The
story of Lucifer that you mention is yet another borrowed idea from a
much older religion than Christianity. The idea is found originally in
the teachings of Zoroaster who was a priest of Varuna prior to the
writing of the Rg-veda. Zoroaster was rejected from the Vedic
civilization for concocting many novel ideas such as the fall from the
eternal kingdom, the devil, the first persons in the garden [Adam and
Eve], powers of good and evil always in conflict, Armageddon, the
day-of-judgment and an eternal kingdom on Earth after evil is
destroyed. All these ideas were concocted by Zoroaster and later on
transplanted in Judea after the Persian conquests [the fall of
Babylon]. In turn the ideas eventually found their way into
Christianity and then Islam.

Dale wrote:

“Srila
Bhaktivedanta Swami says that Christianity was made for meat eaters.
This is incorrect. The Bible clearly states that we are to be
vegetarians. If some do not adhere to this principle, we can¹t
force them.”

The
Bible is contradictory on the issue of vegetarianism. Nowhere does it
explicitly state one must be a vegetarian to be a follower of Christ.
In fact according to the Bible the 12 Apostles objected to Paul
allowing gentiles to not follow the dietary laws and other laws and
rituals of Judaism. One of the laws Paul threw out was the kosher law,
namely that all meat must be kosher which included the practice of
draining the blood from the slaughtered animal. Thus the first
Christians under Paul were allowed to eat both meat and blood. This was
to include cows, goats, sheep, fish and even pigs, which Jews and the
12 Apostles never ate before. Jesus and the 12 Apostles considered pigs
unclean animals and thus unfit to eat.

So
it can be said that not only were the first Christians not vegetarian
but Paul even allowed them to eat blood and pigs. The original
Christians were all meat eaters. There is really no doubt about this
among Christian scholars and theologians.

According
to the Bible, in the beginning Cain offered God grains and vegetables.
His brother Abel offered a sacrificed goat. God rejected the vegetarian
foodstuff offered by Caine but accepted the blood sacrifice of Abel.
This does nothing to promote the God of the Old Testament, of which
Jesus is saying we must love, as being inclined towards a vegetarian
diet. According to the New Testament Jesus offered fish to the
multitudes with his own hands. And Jesus asks us to engage in
ritualistic cannibalism by eating his flesh and drinking his blood.
Sorry to say but this is not the mentality of a vegetarian. You are
simply reading into the Bible what you want to believe but the support
is not actually there.

The
meat eaters have a stronger argument for their case when it comes to
diet and the fact that 99% of Christians are meat eaters speaks for
itself. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are religions for the meat
eaters as Srila Prabhupada clearly stated.

Dale wrote:

“Just like in India , in the name of Hinduism and Kali Puja, many goats are sacrificed and eaten.”

Yes,
goats are sacrificed to Kali [but not Mother cow]. Materialistic people
in India believe that by such sacrifice they will be awarded some
material benediction and have a better material life. They also believe
the karma for killing the animal will be reduced by sacrificing it
before the goddess. But this practice has nothing to do with
Vaishnavism and love of God.

Dale wrote:

“In fact, there is still a temple in Calcutta that sacrifices children.”

Here
you are speaking like a true Christian bigot. As far as sacrificing
children in a temple in Kolkatta is concerned – that is absolutely
ridiculous. The truth is that it is anti-Hindu propaganda. We hear this
type of rhetoric from Christians as a means to defile and smear India.
This type of rhetoric is commonly spoken by those who have an extreme
hatred and bias toward Hinduism. These types of lies are commonly
coming from people intent on destroying India’s religious traditions
and replacing it with Christian or Islamic values.

But
since you have raised the topic of child sacrifice I would like to
remind you that the ancient Hebrews were rich in the practice of human
child sacrifices to the god Molech who’s temple was situated in a
valley not far from Jerusalem. The performance of human child sacrifice
was practiced by the Hebrews in ancient times. This is a historically
and archaeologically proven fact. These were the people from the house
of David and Abraham from which Christianity also claims its roots. In
fact at one point in the Bible we find the story wherein God is asking
Abraham to sacrifice his own son but in the last minute God opts for
the sacrifice of a ram instead. The point being that human sacrifice
was not unknown to the house of Abraham.

So
before you go around fabricating stories about child sacrifice in
Kolkatta you would be better off to discover the alarming facts
surrounding the descendents of Abraham and develop a little humility
and shame for yourself.

The
fact is that when the tribes of Abraham were performing human sacrifice
at the same time the Vaishnavas in India were offering God Krishna
fruits and flowers and singing his glories by chanting his holy names.
The sub-human standards of worship and blood sacrifice that was being
offered to Molech by the Hebrews was known to the seers of Vedic
culture at the time and those worshippers were called Molechas
[Meleches] by the people living in India. Later on this name came to
refer to anyone from the west living outside Vedic culture.

Dale wrote:

“And
there is a temple where the rats are sacred and run all over the
people. They get bit and get the plague. You can say this is not really
Hinduism or Vaishnavism. Similarily when people in the name of
Christianity are eating meat, this isn’t true Christianity. If
you want to call it maya or Satan, then be it so.”

Dale,
you have been watching too many Indiana Jones movies! However, there is
one temple in India where rats are fed and allowed to run free
(Rajastan’s famous Karni Mata Temple). Tourist, especially
‘western tourist’ love to go there and gawk. This temple
was built in modern times and does not reflect India’s ageless theistic
concepts.

As
far as the plague is concerned there have been no cases of people being
bitten at the Karni Mata Temple and then getting the plague. You are
just listening to gossip and lies.

Many
people in the west have the idea that the plague is an everyday
happening in India. This is due to Christian propaganda and not fact.
But comparatively speaking Europe has suffered much more plague than
India.

Incidentally,
in the Dark Ages [the hay-day of Christendom] as much as two thirds of
the population of Europe succumbed to the plague. Furthermore, if you
take the Bible as the word of God then you must believe the plague
originated in the land of the Hebrews as it is mentioned that God used
it to curse the Philistines, the enemies of his so-called chosen
people.

Dale wrote:

“Prabhupada
says the Bible isn¹t an eternal scripture. Again that isn’t
correct. As Jesus is eternal, His message is eternal. But because of
man’s sin, there was no need for a scripture before that. And you
cannot prove the eternality of the Vedas. It is only your word of what
you believe. Before any written scripture was in effect, all were
perfect in their understanding by the hearing process. Srautya. Before
written scripture in any country this was the standard of the saints.”

Putting
aside eternal or not eternal which is hard to prove lets just say that
the Vedas were written thousands of years before any of the Abrahamic
literatures were ever invented. And that is historical fact recognized
by all unbiased scholars in this age.

Dale wrote:

“Krishna
says in the Bhagavad Gita that many lives we all have had, but we
can’t remember them, but he can. Then you can cite the example of
Jada Bharata who took three lives and became a deer. You cannot prove
this. It is only your belief system.”

What
actually is your point here? Are you saying that neither Christianity
or Vaishnavism can empirically prove their teachings? In matters of
faith this might be so but there are volumes of knowledge in the Vedas
that can be and have been empirically proven by modern scientific
methods. Even such advanced physics theories such as parallel universes
are mentioned in the Vedas and are now being investigated by science.

Furthermore,
over the past 300 years much scientific evidence has been revealed that
disproves the Biblical view of the world, its age, etc. So by
comparison the Vedic knowledge is far superior to the Biblical
knowledge and verifiable as well.

Dale wrote:

“Srila
Prabhupada states that the spiritual master suffers the karma of their
disciples, especially at initiation. He many times said the only reason
he is suffereing is because of the sinful reaction of his disciples.
Then why does he belittle Jesus for the plan of redemption? Because of
Christ’s love for you and me, He accepted that position to save
the human race. No matter how much japa we chant, how many vratas we
undertake, how many parikramas we do, nothing will free us from our
sin. Only God, and God alone can free us. No man can do it, nor can we
do it alone. That is why Christ appeared to redeem us. It was His
Infinite Love. Christ Himself says, “without Me you can do
nothing”.”

In
the first place Shrila Prabhupada never belittled Jesus and he did not
state ‘many times’ that he was suffering due to the sins of his
disciples. In fact Shrila Prabhupada went out of his way not to offend
Christians and to glorify Jesus and he did not blame his followers for
his own suffering as you say he did.

The
idea that Jesus or the guru takes the sins of his followers has its
origins in the Veda. Once again we see how Christianity has borrowed
ideas from other places. That the guru removes the karma or sins of his
followers is well known to the followers of the Veda. But nowhere do we
find God punishing Himself for the sins of man. This is an absurd idea.
So we give logic as our evidence that the philosophy you follow is for
no sane thinking person. By your logic God created imperfect beings who
are prone to sinful activity. In other words he made a mistake. Then he
can’t figure out a way to correct his imperfect creatures. He made a
mistake and must find an answer to correct his mistake. The only way he
sees to redeem the world is to punish Himself? Then he appears as his
own son just to be tortured and murdered for the mistakes of those he
created imperfectly. No this is not the logic of saints.

Dale wrote:

“Prabhupada
also quotes that Christians say that if we are sinful, we can stay in
eternal hell. There is no where in the Bible that says God puts us in
eternal hell. It just doesn’t exist. Thast¹s another example
how Prabhupada really didn’t know the Bible nor do most of the
human race. But there are some that do.”

Christians
over all do teach that there is an eternal Hell. Your particular sect
of Christianity [Seventh Day Adventists which began in the 1800s as a
Christian cult] may not accept eternal Hell but for that all other
Christians would consider you a heretic and thus possibly eligible to
be burned alive. At least that is their past history.

It
is nice that the Seventh Day Adventists do not accept the eternal hell
concept and are trying to be better people by promoting vegetarianism,
but the fact is that you are a small number of Christians whereas the
bulk of Christianity does teach about eternal hell and advocates a meat
based diet with great fervor. According to mainstream Christianity the
Seventh Day Adventists are a cult the same as the Mormons.

Dale wrote:

“I
could go on and on. Jesus was the Perfect Example of selfless love.
Either Chaitanya left this world by entering Tota Gopinath or jumped in
the ocean. You can say he was absorbed in his own bhakti. But Christ,
on the cross at His death wasn’t concerned for His welfare, but
for the welfare of the people. Even He cared about those who were
persecuting Him. He said, “My father, please forgive them for
they know not what they are doing”. This is the epitome of
selfless love.”

The
idea that God should punish himself by his own death in my opinion
smacks of your own envy of God. You want him to suffer because you
think he made you suffer. Not a very loving conception if you ask me.
Devotees of Krishna and Shri Chaitanya cannot even tolerate the thought
that God should even suffer the trouble of walking bare foot on the
earth what to speak of hanging on a cross for someone’s sins. But
this seems to be a coveted Christian concept – God has to suffer! On
the other hand Vaishnavas want God to enjoy, not suffer.

Krishna’s
and Shri Chaitanya’s devotees are considered to be the mercy
manifestation of God and as such they are thousands of more times more
merciful than Jesus Christ. Take for example the devotee Vasudeva Dutt
who prayed to God that all living beings in the universe should
automatically be freed from their sins and go back to Godhead and that
he [Vasudeva Dutt] would suffer for all their sins. Whereas, Jesus only
prayed to God to forgive those who offended him. Vasudeva Dutt was
willing to bear the sins of the universe even if they did not know him
or believe in him but Jesus only saves those who believe in him. So
categorically Vasudeva Dutt is much more merciful than Jesus.

You
allude to a myth that the only way God can redeem the world is by a
blood sacrifice. On the one hand you preach God punishes himself for
the sins of man then you say he forgives those who are punishing him?
This is contradictory and is evidence that you have no real philosophy.
I will reiterate this point again, you say God creates imperfect
beings, he cannot figure out a way to redeem them other than by
punishing Himself, so He incarnates as His son. Then He is tortured and
murdered. Before he dies he utters ‘forgive them’?

I
must ask, forgive who? According to the Bible and your philosophy the
whole thing is God’s plan. It would be a more believable story if
Jesus thanked them for carrying out God’s plan. Why is there a
need to forgive them when they are doing the will of God? You cannot
see the absurdity of what you believe?

And
to make matters even worse the Christian community blamed the Jews for
the death of Jesus and thus gave birth to anti-Semitism causing the
suffering and deaths of many innocent men, women, and children
throughout the ages.

But if this were God’s plan to suffer himself on the cross, then why the blaming and killing of Jews?

Dale write:

“When
Narottama das was chanting his japa with his guru, Lokanath das
Goswami, a poor and thirsty person came who was on the verge of
collapsing. Narottama das out of his compassionate heart stopped his
japa to get her a drink of water. Lokanath Goswami was outraged. He
told narotta das that he made an offence to the chanting and banished
him. You can say this was leela, but the fact remains that a human
being needed water. Jesus says that He is that Living Water, and once
drinking from Him, you will never thirst again. If you say that this
was done because the chanting was more important, then I will say that
you have an inferior religion and not Christianity. Don¹t try to
make it that Hinduism is superior or more transcendental. If you think
so, you are only fooling yourself and the followers who abide by such
propaganda.”

Unless
you can quote this story above from a verifiable Vaishnava source then
it is useless to discuss because it is hearsay. The story as you tell
it does not represent the true heart of a Vaishnava who is always
compassionate for the suffering of others.

Dale wrote:

“Jesus
Himself requested that His followers go to the highways and byways, to
the ends of the earth to give His sublime gospel call. It is not for
the exploitation that you state. You will never find the depth of love
and mercy that is in Christ Jesus. He is a loving God and will never
force. He is ready to accept you if you come with a contrite heart and
seek His mercy. Jesus is not a liar. He said that He will return. We
accept that.”

What
“sublime gospel call” are you talking about? I hope
it’s not the one about “love thy neighbor”? If so you
should remember that the Buddha preached about love thy neighbor,
nonviolence, vegetarianism and lots more several centuries before
anyone ever heard about Christ. In fact those sorts of principles were
common in all the Vedic religions thousands of years before Jesus. So
why is he so special when every sadhu [saint] in India for the past
10,000 years has demonstrated such qualities and more. Every quality
except the quality of having himself killed on a cross to save his
followers. A ludicrous concept as we have already discussed.

Basically
you are simply ‘love bombing’ with all this ‘love’ talk.
This is the latest method of deception now used by Christians
worldwide. But ‘love bombing’ is just a ploy used because Christians
can no longer get away with their original methods of forced
conversions, aggression and intimidation in the modern democratic
countries that promote pluralism of thought.

The
history of Christianity paints a different picture than the ‘love
bombing’ picture you and your preachers are trying to project. History
does indeed record Christianity as being an aggressive plunderer. The
fact is Christianity is an aggressive religion that has plundered
Mother Earth and her people for two thousand years and it is about time
the truth was spoken.

Your
claims of Jesus coming soon has echoed through the ages [for the past
2000 years]. Every generation of Christians has claimed Jesus was
coming in their time and now you are saying the same thing. The fact is
that the first 12 Apostles claimed he was coming in their time also.
And the Bible states clearly that Jesus was expected to return shortly
after his death on the cross. But after all this time Jesus has not
appeared. Instead the earth has suffered at the hands of those who
exploit her in the name of the Bible and Jesus.

My
dear Dale, Mother Earth can no longer bare the burden of Christianity
and that is why your religion is being taken apart brick by brick. The
western world has changed in the last 2,000 years and intelligent
people are no longer inclined toward superstitious illogical doctrines.
Christianity had its chance and its time is over. We are seeing its
demise and we welcome it. Let Mother Earth be relieved of this heavy
burden.

OM TAT SAT

Pradeep Sharma

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Dialogue With a Christian

Wanted leaders: see qualifications below

If the bees go we are doomed, serious